Best of luck, buddy! Public service is super important.

Originally Posted by MrPlinkett

Alright. Really? How about we run a university wide voting, on how many people go to 1280 and buy stuff in the marketplace regularly. Marketplace for example, has a lot of alternatives on campus, so why should students pay for this so called business that uses their money to buy items, and then resell them back to the students?

I don't know what you're referring to by "Marketplace", it's called the Union Market and it sells items to anyone with money, whether they're union members or not. There are indeed many places to buy food on campus but because the Union Market is run by the MSU they are able to keep prices lower than other businesses and are more open to student suggestion.

Also, you don't need to "run a university wide voting" to establish the value of 1280, people already vote with their wallets. 1280 has lost a lot of money over the years, so it wouldn't be a bad idea to consider selling/leasing the space. However, despite what a lot of cynical people think, the MSU is actually relatively good at taking in fees and funding stuff with them. I think most people just like to look for things to complain about so they can feel like grown-ups complaining about real governments.

Wait. 1280 and Union market don't turn out a profit?

Especially 1280! With those crazy prices, they still don't make a profit?

Frankly, I think MSU is a joke.

The fact that MSU Administration fee is twice as much as any other service and that Administration and Executive fees are the two highest fees among all services is laughable.

To put Executive fees in perspective, AVTEK fee is only slightly less and they do a hell lot more work per hour than the Execs and the Admins.

With all that said, I suggest you start an official suggestions page or something so that students can make suggestions and vote on other students' suggestions. There has always been a disconnect between the MSU and the students, that would probably help with that.

I'm going to offer up my 2 cents on brodka's freedom credit even though it'll fall on deaf ears because y'all are too busy arguing about the usefulness of the msu.

Frankly, I think offering a freedom credit will lead to it being abused. Students aren't afraid to take courses outside of their program, contrary to opinion. Many do. When they don't, most of the time it's because they don't have:
a. space in their schedule (because they have limited electives)
b. the necessary pre-requisites to take the course.

What I see the freedom credit being used for is to get around difficult courses WITHIN your own program. For example, if there's a required course you have to take (let's say physics 1B03 or orgo, since i'm in science) but you don't want it to drag down your GPA, you can use the freedom credit to get around that. It's like the MSAF system, it'll be majorly abused by the kind of people who are explicitly calculating the difficulty of courses/possibility of their average going down before they take the course.

So for that reason, I am against that idea, and unless someone can explain why the above situations wouldn't occur... I think it'll just cause more trouble than it's worth. Sure, some MIGHT use it to take things like language courses, but mostly I see it being abused.


Also, since I just remembered: when I said that students don't have the necessary pre-requisites to take courses outside of their programs, I mean that a lot of courses are closed to students outside of that program. I can't take a studio arts course unless I'm in the art program. And this is the case for many courses, so that's an underlying issue that needs to be addressed first and foremost (and it would be difficult to anyway, given space constraints, etc.)

^health scis would def abuse it and take physics and orgo without hesitation LOL

Originally Posted by Afzal

Wait. 1280 and Union market don't turn out a profit?

Especially 1280! With those crazy prices, they still don't make a profit?

Frankly, I think MSU is a joke.

The fact that MSU Administration fee is twice as much as any other service and that Administration and Executive fees are the two highest fees among all services is laughable.

To put Executive fees in perspective, AVTEK fee is only slightly less and they do a hell lot more work per hour than the Execs and the Admins.

With all that said, I suggest you start an official suggestions page or something so that students can make suggestions and vote on other students' suggestions. There has always been a disconnect between the MSU and the students, that would probably help with that.

If you were at State of the Union, you'd know that Union actually turns a profit.

Originally Posted by HeroTech

If you were at State of the Union, you'd know that Union actually turns a profit.

Then students shouldn't be paying them a fixed fee in addition to their profit.

I don't know what you're referring to by "Marketplace", it's called the Union Market and it sells items to anyone with money, whether they're union members or not. There are indeed many places to buy food on campus but because the Union Market is run by the MSU they are able to keep prices lower than other businesses and are more open to student suggestion.

Right, so how many times do I have to buy something, in order to get the money I paid MSU back with the difference?

What if I don't study near that store, and am unable to go there? What if majority of 25,000 students on campus are not buying anything there, or buying very little, and thus unable to get their money back? Does that mean we are screwed? Did we vote on this? Coz, I'm not sure I agree with this policy.

Also, you don't need to "run a university wide voting" to establish the value of 1280, people already vote with their wallets. 1280 has lost a lot of money over the years, so it wouldn't be a bad idea to consider selling/leasing the space. However, despite what a lot of cynical people think, the MSU is actually relatively good at taking in fees and funding stuff with them. I think most people just like to look for things to complain about so they can feel like grown-ups complaining about real governments.

Hmmm, sounds like stealing.

But I guess in your mind, if I don't like being ripped off, I'm being cynical.

Plinkett is just stirring shit up for fun

Billu, if you don't have anything to contribute to the conversation, you should not post in this thread.

Originally Posted by lightka

Anyhow, I talked to Jacob in the student centre yesterday and he seemed to be an alright fellow. Definately highly approachable, quite businesslike, yet casual, and from the couple obscure yet challenging questions I had, he definately had the one quality I like best in a candidate: the will to engage.

If his "best" sucks, than that's a year of MSU down the drain. You should vote for someone who is qualified.

And it's d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.

http://www.d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com/

Question for Jacob.

We know MSU has worked with the HSR to give us the benefits of a lowered bus pass.

Any chance MSU might work a deal with the new BikeShare that is coming to Hamilton?

Originally Posted by Silver

^health scis would def abuse it and take physics and orgo without hesitation LOL

And how is that abusing the system?

Glad to see Brodka's around to answer the questions in his own thread...

Originally Posted by ooburii

Glad to see Brodka's around to answer the questions in his own thread...

As I overheard one passionate young lady in MUSC say: "#AnybodyButBrodka201 4"

Originally Posted by ooburii

Glad to see Brodka's around to answer the questions in his own thread...

He's probably busy Snapchatting people.