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		hey 
if anyone wants to work together on math 1b03 project one give me a shout =)  
 
I hate electricity x_x 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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			10-30-2011 at 07:35 PM
			
						
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		 I'm not posting here 'cause I want to work together, but because I want to discuss the project. >__> 
 
1) The prof said any online tool was acceptable, right? 
 
2) Q5, what IS that form? Do we have to make it into a state vector or something? 
 
I'm so confused. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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				I'm not posting here 'cause I want to work together, but because I want to discuss the project. >__> 
 
1) The prof said any online tool was acceptable, right? 
 
2) Q5, what IS that form? Do we have to make it into a state vector or something? 
 
I'm so confused. 
			
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 1) I'm pretty sure any online tool is fine; I've been using Wolfram Alpha.
 
2) Say the first row of your RREF matrix was:
 
1 0 0 0 0 -5 | 6
 
If I6=t, then in x0+tx1 form, I1=6+5t. Except you're doing this for all of the rows, so it might be more like:
 
[column vector I]=[column vector B]+t[column vector corresponding to I6]
 
I'm not really sure if that makes sense, but it's hard to show with just typing. Let me know if you need me to be clearer about anything.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Oooooh, that makes so much sense, thank you! 
 
My equations are probably not right, then, because what I get is...um, I get a perfect RREF. Like, every variable is equal to a number. :/ 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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				1) I'm pretty sure any online tool is fine; I've been using Wolfram Alpha. 
 
2) Say the first row of your RREF matrix was: 
 
1 0 0 0 0 -5 | 6 
 
If I6=t, then in x0+tx1 form, I1=6+5t. Except you're doing this for all of the rows, so it might be more like: 
 
[column vector I]=[column vector B]+t[column vector corresponding to I6] 
 
I'm not really sure if that makes sense, but it's hard to show with just typing. Let me know if you need me to be clearer about anything. 
			
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 WOW, I feel dumb! Everything else took me 5-15 minutes per question...  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Heh, same. I was cruising along until I was like WHAAAAAAAT. xD 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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				Oooooh, that makes so much sense, thank you! 
 
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 You're welcome! 
I also had a unique solution the first time I did it. Double-check your equations for sure, that's probably it.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 for the first question we should have 7 equations right? I have 10 o_o. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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7. First go node by node (current in = current out). Then go closed loop by closed loop. LOL, hope that helps! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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		 Loops 
  -I2(10) + 400 – I1(10) = 0 
  I1(10) – 400 +I5(20) + I4(10) + I3(20) = 0 
  -I4(10) + I6(R) = 0  
  I3(20) – I2(10) + I5(20) + I4(10) = 0 
  I1(10) - 400 + I5(20) + I6(R) +I3(20) = 0  
  -I2(10) +I5(20) + I6(R) +I3(20) = 0 
 
 
  Nodes  
  I1  = I2 + I3  
  I3 = I4 + I6 
  I4 + I6 = I5   
  I5 + I2 = I1 
 
 
 
 
Am I doing this totally wrong? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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		 Hey!  
I have it as: 
  
Loops:  
10I1+10I2=400 
10I1+2I3+10I4+20I5=40  0 
10I4-RI6=0 
  
Nodes: 
I1-I2-I3 = 0 
I3-I4-I6=0 
I4+I6-I5=0 
I5+I2-I1=0 
  
I'm on question 6 now. I have my R value and I solved I6 to be 10/R(I4). The problem is, when I go to sub that into my parameterized equations, I can't solve for t. Does anybody know where I'm going wrong? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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		 Brit, how did you get that? did you only divide the circuit into 3? 
also, if you row reduce the "nodes", you remove an equation =o 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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		 finally get it >.< finally can get past the first question 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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		 did anyone else get something over 11 for the final column and the 3rd last column? (when in row reduced form) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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