Originally Posted by Naheed

It is not within the scope of the MSU to directly control what appears on transcripts, however, we've seen many motions come forward that ask the MSU to lobby for a specific goal or idea. In this case, actively pursuing this goal would be within the scope of the MSU.

Remember, everyone, motions have to be in by Friday at noon!

Well, I submitted it, we'll see what happens now

Originally Posted by webzn

I am a bit confused about who can submit a motion. What I would like to see, although I am not sure if it is in the MSU's power, is to have class average information or Z scores on transcripts.

A growing concern among students thinking about post-graduation is that their transcripts may not accurately represent their achievement in the eyes of admissions boards. Due to some faculties, many postgrad admissions boards have the notion that McMaster gives away grades and the averages obtained by students are too high. Almost all other universities have information on transcripts, such as class average or Z score, to show how the student did compared to the rest of the class. Why does McMaster not do the same?

For example, if two students were applying for one spot, both with a 10 average, but, student A has an average Z score of +1 (meaning that they were a standard deviation, on average, above the rest of the class), and student B had a Z score of -1, then obviously student A is the better option. Now, if a board were reviewing a Mac grad and a Toronto Grad, they would not have this information to make their decision, and with the growing belief that grades are being given away, the Mac grad would be at a disadvantage.

This isn't actually my idea, so, I give credit to Dr. Lichty for spending a whole lecture one day on this topic and making me want a change.

I completely agree!! I would also like to see class averages for tests, exams and assignments.

Originally Posted by Kathy2

I completely agree!! I would also like to see class averages for tests, exams and assignments.

Well, the transcript shows your final grade (0-12) and it is what you submit to employers/boards/interviewers/etc. It would not show assignments and tests

Go to this thing guys if you have the time! Let your voice be heard, and see the viewpoints of others!!!

Originally Posted by webzn

Well, the transcript shows your final grade (0-12) and it is what you submit to employers/boards/interviewers/etc. It would not show assignments and tests

I just meant in general, like on Avenue. This would be for my benefit, not the employer's.

Next year, I'm submitting a motion to ban people from submitting politically-charged motions. It's always a toughy subject and spending a good 30 minutes of something that was only supposed to last two hours, especially when the motion failed so overwhelmingly, is not something I'd like to sit through again.

Alternatively, a pre-vote would be useful. We all knew the motion to propose a study break would pass, there really wasn't a need to spend (an admittedly short amount of) time on its discussion.

It's a shame more people didn't show up though.

Summary of what was passed? Wish I could have made it :/

Originally Posted by RyanC

Summary of what was passed? Wish I could have made it :/

I have a 6:30 class, but when I left, the only two motions passed were the "lobby for a study break" one and the "lobby to make Mac a fair trade" university ones, alond with most calls to question.

Originally Posted by Entropy

Next year, I'm submitting a motion to ban people from submitting politically-charged motions. It's always a toughy subject and spending a good 30 minutes of something that was only supposed to last two hours, especially when the motion failed so overwhelmingly, is not something I'd like to sit through again.

Alternatively, a pre-vote would be useful. We all knew the motion to propose a study break would pass, there really wasn't a need to spend (an admittedly short amount of) time on its discussion.

It's a shame more people didn't show up though.

There's actually something called a straw poll where you can ask for an informal nonbinding poll of member opinion. Unfortunately I didn't think of using this until all the controversial things had already been discussed. I agree completely that some of the motions would not have had long debates if the way the voting would have gone would have been known, while others that were closer would have seen just as much debate.

I wish I knew the status, I proposed a motion but was unable to attend. I doubt it passed though, but, I wish I could have been there to describe it and defend it.

If you proposed a motion but weren't there it wouldn't have gone forward unless someone moved it for you. Was it the Z-score one? Unfortunately that one died because no one took it up.