Originally Posted by knox

I think I'll start up a new social club. Students for the Existence of Unicorns, and our sister group Invisible Friendsapalooza. I expect you all to be very open-minded about us.

While I don't think I'll join the Invisible Friendsapalooza (I already don't have enough time for my visible friends...), I definitely would consider joining the Students for the Existence of Unicorns. I always knew deep down inside that Charlie was and is real!!! lolz

Originally Posted by Diakosune

I always knew deep down inside that Charlie was and is real!!! lolz

Charlie is real. Anyone that thinks otherwise will be taken to candy mountain.

To each, their own.

There really isn't a point proving someone who is religious, that religion is false.
Trust me -___-

Originally Posted by andrew22

fear --> denial ---> delusions.
Knox, you can't be hard on these people. Death, homosexuality, meaninglessness are very scary things for these people. They are just scared and trying to work through their fears the only way their muslim/christian culture has shown them how. I think we can feel some pity for them, but we can't change them.

I would politely request you NOT to point fingers at specific religions.

You don't know what reasons one might have for believing in things. Fact is, you simply don't WANT to believe in God because then you'll be restricted.

If you don't want to hear out the reasons there are (perhaps I might post myself) then you don't have a reason to say that God doesn't exist.

We don't fear homosexuality, death or meaninglessness. Instead we find the meanings and we face the death without fear if it's for a noble cause.

About homosexuality, all animals mate with their female counterparts (if they exist)...and therefore it is unnatural to be homosexual.

Originally Posted by andrew22

fear --> denial ---> delusions.
Knox, you can't be hard on these people. Death, homosexuality, meaninglessness are very scary things for these people. They are just scared and trying to work through their fears the only way their muslim/christian culture has shown them how. I think we can feel some pity for them, but we can't change them.

I disagree; I'm a Muslim, though not even half as devout as I should be and homosexuality doesn't scare me.

Originally Posted by Afzal

I would politely request you NOT to point fingers at specific religions.

You don't know what reasons one might have for believing in things. Fact is, you simply don't WANT to believe in God because then you'll be restricted.

If you don't have a pair to hear out the proofs there are (perhaps I might post myself) then you don't have the reason to say that God doesn't exist.

We don't fear homosexuality, death or meaninglessness. Instead we find the meanings and we face the death without fear if it's for a noble cause.

About homosexuality, all animals mate with their female counterparts (if they exist)...and therefore it is unnatural to be homosexual.

Ever thought why everything rotates around a center? electrons around a nucleus, planets around the suns, suns around Sagittarius A* ?
Why not some other motion? and why isn't anything stationary?

homosexuality happens in animals (including humans). I assume you will be taking back your point about the unnaturalness now since it happens with animals and non human animals ie. in nature.

exactly, you find meanings... with your religion. that was the third step remember: delusion ?


Afzal the anti-gay poster of macinsiders. good luck with being that. : )

Originally Posted by andrew22

homosexuality happens in animals (including humans). I assume you will be taking back your point about the unnaturalness now since it happens with animals and non human animals ie. in nature.

exactly, you find meanings... with your religion. that was the third step remember: delusion ?


Afzal the anti-gay poster of macinsiders. good luck with being that. : )

might I remind you there are other lines than the last one that you could comment on.

Call me anti-gay, do I look like a care? At least I don't frown upon other people's beliefs
btw, I wouldn't shun a gay person (unless he is attracted to me)

Originally Posted by Afzal

I would politely request you NOT to point fingers at specific religions.

You don't know what reasons one might have for believing in things. Fact is, you simply don't WANT to believe in God because then you'll be restricted.

If you don't want to hear out the reasons there are (perhaps I might post myself) then you don't have a reason to say that God doesn't exist.

We don't fear homosexuality, death or meaninglessness. Instead we find the meanings and we face the death without fear if it's for a noble cause.

About homosexuality, all animals mate with their female counterparts (if they exist)...and therefore it is unnatural to be homosexual.

Uh, sorry? Homosexuality does occur in nature, iirc.

And let's say, even if it didn't, and humans were the first to do it.
Maybe that's part of our evolution. And that wouldn't be unnatural.

Call me anti-gay, do I look like a care? At least I don't frown upon other people's beliefs
btw, I wouldn't shun a gay person (unless he is attracted to me)

Oh lordy lordy.
Just because someone is gay, doesn't mean they want to **** everything in sight.
And even if a gay person WAS attracted to you, you could KINDLY say "Sorry, I'm not interested."

It's like people think they'll be raped as soon as they reject a non-heretosexual.

And this isn't just in reference to you. I know so many straight males who don't even want a gay person around them because they think they're automatically gonna fall in love with them/go crazy/rape the/etc just b/c they're male. It's like straight men thing that gay men suddenly lose all sense of standards. XDD

homosexuality in animals is beneficial for them in ways other than satisfying lust, I don't think that's true for humans

@cheri, LOL at part of evolution...could be

Does a whole specie of an animal exhibit that behavior or just some of that specific specie?

Originally Posted by lawleypop

Uh, sorry? Homosexuality does occur in nature, iirc.

And let's say, even if it didn't, and humans were the first to do it.
Maybe that's part of our evolution. And that wouldn't be unnatural.



Oh lordy lordy.
Just because someone is gay, doesn't mean they want to **** everything in sight.
And even if a gay person WAS attracted to you, you could KINDLY say "Sorry, I'm not interested."

It's like people think they'll be raped as soon as they reject a non-heretosexual.
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Evolution doesn't exist silly.

Originally Posted by Afzal

might I remind you there are other lines than the last one that you could comment on.

Call me anti-gay, do I look like a care? At least I don't frown upon other people's beliefs
btw, I wouldn't shun a gay person (unless he is attracted to me)

and homosexuality in animals is beneficial for them in ways other than satisfying lust, I don't think that's true for humans

so homosexuality is natural? or is it still not? you gotta at least back up your retarded ****ing statement afzal. lol. can you change your mind on this issue?


and sure you may be better than I am, but really, you should aspire for a little more than just better than me.

ITT: idiots use naturalistic fallacies

Originally Posted by lawleypop

Uh, sorry? Homosexuality does occur in nature, iirc.

And let's say, even if it didn't, and humans were the first to do it.
Maybe that's part of our evolution. And that wouldn't be unnatural.



Oh lordy lordy.
Just because someone is gay, doesn't mean they want to **** everything in sight.
And even if a gay person WAS attracted to you, you could KINDLY say "Sorry, I'm not interested."

It's like people think they'll be raped as soon as they reject a non-heretosexual.

And this isn't just in reference to you. I know so many straight males who don't even want a gay person around them because they think they're automatically gonna fall in love with them/go crazy/rape the/etc just b/c they're male. It's like straight men thing that gay men suddenly lose all sense of standards. XDD

I said shun, not shoot...
"Sorry I'm not gay" + avoid that person in future is what I meant

I think if a guy told a girl he is attracted and if she didn't like that guy, she would try to avoid him too (this is not referring to asking out and trying how it works)

Originally Posted by andrew22

so homosexuality is natural? or is it still not? you gotta at least back up your retarded ****ing statement afzal. lol. can you change your mind on this issue?


and sure you may be better than I am, but really, you should aspire for a little more than just better than me.

did I say I was better than you

yes homosexuality does exist in animals, and so does cross-species sex
but I asked a question:
Does a whole specie of an animal exhibit that behavior or just some of that specific specie?

Originally Posted by Afzal

homosexuality in animals is beneficial for them in ways other than satisfying lust, I don't think that's true for humans

@cheri, LOL at part of evolution...could be

Does a whole specie of an animal exhibit that behavior or just some of that specific specie?

So is it unnatural or not. Just because humans may do it for different reasons doesn't make it any less natural. And considering you thought that it didn't occur in nature AT ALL, I'm gonna assume that you also don't know for certain if it's ALWAYS beneficial or if it DOES happen sometimes for reasons of "lust" (hell, I don't know either, I don't know nearly enough about the subject).

And for the last part: again, couldn't tell you. Don't know enough about it. But I found this quote with a quick google search:

""No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphids. Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue.""

I said shun, not shoot...

Huh? ...

Originally Posted by lawleypop

So is it unnatural or not. Just because humans may do it for different reasons doesn't make it any less natural. And considering you thought that it didn't occur in nature AT ALL, I'm gonna assume that you also don't know for certain if it's ALWAYS beneficial or if it DOES happen sometimes for reasons of "lust" (hell, I don't know either, I don't know nearly enough about the subject).

And for the last part: again, couldn't tell you. Don't know enough about it. But I found this quote with a quick google search:

""No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphids. Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue.""


Huh? ...
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hmmm...ok i take back my point. simple as that

and what about the other lines above this point in that post?