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				how.. did you get that o_o 
			
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I guess it wasn't hard atleast to guess lol  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
 
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			11-27-2011 at 08:48 PM
			
						
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		 I'm completely math stupid so I'm just going to take your word for it.  I literally read it a million times and I think I understand parts of it, but not fully.   
 
for question 2, I'm assuming we fin the determinant of only "A".  not "Av" because only "A" is 3x3 matrix =) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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		 I'm completely math stupid so I'm just going to take your word for it.  I literally read it a million times and I think I understand parts of it, but not fully.   
 
for question 2, I'm assuming we fin the determinant of only "A".  not "Av" because only "A" is 3x3 matrix =)  
 
correct me if I'm wrong please 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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			11-27-2011 at 08:50 PM
			
						
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		 WTF 
NEVER try and change something when "quick reply" is in progress O_O 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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			11-27-2011 at 08:51 PM
			
						
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		 You're basically breaking the equations into the matrix. It confused me at first too, but when it clicks, you'll understand. 
 
like, for example, you have ft = pat 
The first column represents ft, the second mt, the third at. 
So the first row for the first equation would show 0 for ft and mt, but p for at. 
 
Does that make sense? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
 
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			11-27-2011 at 08:56 PM
			
						
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				I'm completely math stupid so I'm just going to take your word for it.  I literally read it a million times and I think I understand parts of it, but not fully.   
 
for question 2, I'm assuming we fin the determinant of only "A".  not "Av" because only "A" is 3x3 matrix =)  
 
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 Yes, u will compute determinant and get polynomial, although it is already obvious since stochastic matrix will always have at least one eigenvalue and it is 1.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
 
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		 iFaer, yes that is starting to make sense.  thank you =]  
 
Differential, thank you for your help =)  
I don't know anything at all about what a stochastic matrix is.   
 
i got the following for the polynomial  
 
 p – λq + λ3 – λ2 + λ2p + λ2q 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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				iFaer, yes that is starting to make sense.  thank you =]  
 
Differential, thank you for your help =)  
I don't know anything at all about what a stochastic matrix is.   
 
i got the following for the polynomial  
 
 p – λq + λ3 – λ2 + λ2p + λ2q 
			
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 just put this polynomial into wolfram alpha and u will get root
 
p.s stochastic matrix = Markov Chain  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
 
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		 o__o wolfram alpha can factor things with 3 variables? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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				o__o wolfram alpha can factor things with 3 variables? 
			
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 I think u r able to calculate up to 4 roots using general formula but 5th is not possible(proven)  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
 
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		 when I plug in 0.2 and 0.28 I get the following equation 
 λ3 –0.70λ2–0.28λ +0.02  = 0  
   
which does not have roots o___o 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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				when I plug in 0.2 and 0.28 I get the following equation 
 λ3 –0.70λ2–0.28λ +0.02  = 0  
   
which does not have roots o___o 
			
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i think u r really tired or smth lol 
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		@Ush.S: RELAX, BUD! You're going to be fine.    You have the whole of tomorrow to work on this, and Tuesday morning. So stressing now won't help, haha. 
   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
 
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		 :$ I thought it was due today,  
so glad I have another day o_o 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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		 you put "-0.02", I put "+0.02"  
isn't it supposed to be positive? 
 
nevermind, i made a stupid mistake 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
						  
				
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