I think it's so sad that because of one stupid night, he's likely ruined his chances for any future athletic involvement. It's really a shame that one night's events will have such a hold on his future. Obviously, however, being Mac football player comes with more responsibilty than just being a good, clean player on the field. He has to express the same behaviour off the field, and evidently he did not on that one night. I really feel for him. I'm sure he's kicking himself now.

No pun intended.

One of my friends who works security said that a bunch of guys who were hammered were chirping him hard about the loss to Western and went pretty far. Not saying that this is appropriate or anything just saying that understandably he was upset over the loss to a big time rival and had a bunch of super drunk guys going after him like that.

Originally Posted by lizziepizzie

I think it's so sad that because of one stupid night, he's likely ruined his chances for any future athletic involvement. It's really a shame that one night's events will have such a hold on his future. Obviously, however, being Mac football player comes with more responsibilty than just being a good, clean player on the field. He has to express the same behaviour off the field, and evidently he did not on that one night. I really feel for him. I'm sure he's kicking himself now.

No pun intended.

Not to compare him with the likes of Vick and Burress, but a number of athletes have done far worse than what he did and have been reinstated. If he is really that important to both the program and to Canadian football, it'll be a slap on the wrist. If he gets more than that, then we know how important he really is.

I'm a huge supporter of Mac athletics but you probably shouldn't be a dick and get drunk and fight the police.

Originally Posted by dabulls

I'm a huge supporter of Mac athletics but you probably shouldn't be a dick and get drunk and fight the police.

Well it depends on how drunk you are which takes a toll on your conciousness which may result in scenarios where you lay your hand on a peace officer.

Originally Posted by herBs

Well it depends on how drunk you are which takes a toll on your conciousness which may result in scenarios where you lay your hand on a peace officer.

no it doesn't. intoxication is not a defence for fighting the police, or anyone for that matter.

As arguably the second most recognizable student on campus behind the MSU president he should be setting the example.

Like it or not, many people look up to student athletes and this is not the type of behaviour that Mac should be permitting so kudos to them for suspending him and to the police for charging him.

Originally Posted by dabulls

no it doesn't. intoxication is not a defence for fighting the police, or anyone for that matter.

As arguably the second most recognizable student on campus behind the MSU president he should be setting the example.

Like it or not, many people look up to student athletes and this is not the type of behaviour that Mac should be permitting so kudos to them for suspending him and to the police for charging him.

You clearly do not understand what I was trying to say.

Originally Posted by herBs

You clearly do not understand what I was trying to say.

We understand that it takes a toll on your consciousness. Everyone knows that. As a familiar face on campus though, he definitely should have been way more careful and shouldn't have put himself into such a situation where this event could have happened.

Originally Posted by herBs

You clearly do not understand what I was trying to say.

I think I understand it- you're just out to lunch. I am just telling you the law doesn't give a damn how drunk you are. If intoxication was a defence or even a mitigation circumstance then impaired driving wouldn't be such a big deal would it?

If you drink the the point where you can't behave then you deserve to face the consequences and in this case it happens to be several criminal charges including assaulting a peace officer.

Originally Posted by dabulls

I think I understand it- you're just out to lunch. I am just telling you the law doesn't give a damn how drunk you are. If intoxication was a defence or even a mitigation circumstance then impaired driving wouldn't be such a big deal would it?

If you drink the the point where you can't behave then you deserve to face the consequences and in this case it happens to be several criminal charges including assaulting a peace officer.

When did I say the law gives a damn about how drunk you are?

Originally Posted by herBs

When did I say the law gives a damn about how drunk you are?

In your original post you suggested that different levels of intoxication affect whether or not you would attack a cop and (in my opinion at least) implied that he (the QB) had reached a level where he was not in control, and therefore not responsible, for his actions.

Ted was just was saying that it doesn't matter how intoxicated you are, your responsibility for your actions does not waver.

That's what I'm getting from all of this.

Originally Posted by RememberTwce

In your original post you suggested that different levels of intoxication affect whether or not you would attack a cop and (in my opinion at least) implied that he (the QB) had reached a level where he was not in control, and therefore not responsible, for his actions.

Ted was just was saying that it doesn't matter how intoxicated you are, your responsibility for your actions does not waver.

That's what I'm getting from all of this.

You got what I wanted to say down right except for the last part. You're always accountable for your actions.

Originally Posted by herBs

When did I say the law gives a damn about how drunk you are?

I think the problem is that you tried to be a smart ass and it backfired.