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Old 02-01-2011 at 05:06 PM   #45
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Hahaha. A conundrum indeeed.

Sidenote- I was so totally sure you were Egyptian (we worked together during Chem 1AA3 labs a bajillion years ago)
omfgfgfgfgf You're that Sara!?!?!! ahaha hi!!!

I like that you actually knew I was Egyptian ^_^ Which makes sense as generally only Egyptians can figure it out from my last name (and not my appareance )

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I never said I don't respect you as an individual I just hate health sci in general. They are usually obnoxious and see high of themselves. And the university treats them in a special way.

But this is off-topic ... I STILL LOVE EGYPTIANS

i don't know what else to say... never expected that to pop up ... lol
it's fine, I'm only teasing really.
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Old 02-01-2011 at 05:15 PM   #46
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Yeah he got 89% of votes... That`s "rigged`"....

Who`s the idiot now ?
Are you even arab???


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Old 02-01-2011 at 05:17 PM   #47
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Yeah he got 89% of votes... That`s "rigged`"....

Who`s the idiot now ?
You are. It's not 100% (obviously) just so he doesn't get called out on it by the international community, activists, human rights groups, etc. etc. Common sense. Any REAL elections would be much much less than that for any winning candidate. E.g. Obama vs McCain 52% compared to 47%.. Where has all the common sense in the world gone.. seriously..

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omfgfgfgfgf You're that Sara!?!?!! ahaha hi!!!

I like that you actually knew I was Egyptian ^_^ Which makes sense as generally only Egyptians can figure it out from my last name (and not my appareance )
Hahha Hiii ! I only realized it a few days ago when I saw your picture.. I'm like waiiiiiiit.. There's a connection there . Haha totally! You don't look like it at all. I mean, you have the Mediterranean/European appearance, that's why I hesitated to ask you and thought the last name was just a coincidence haha
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Old 02-01-2011 at 05:36 PM   #48
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You are. It's not 100% (obviously) just so he doesn't get called out on it by the international community, activists, human rights groups, etc. etc. Common sense. Any REAL elections would be much much less than that for any winning candidate. E.g. Obama vs McCain 52% compared to 47%.. Where has all the common sense in the world gone.. seriously..
Real Election ? It was a real democratic election back in 2005. Mubarak won because people were happy under his regime back then. And the other candidate was jokes.

Especially, when 6 million people voted for him. I know Egypt`s population is 80 million but they should`ve voted when they had the chance.

And you can`t compare the US election with Egypt`s 2005 election. In the US, they had over 40% of the population voting. In egypt : 9%

Don`t try me.
 
Old 02-01-2011 at 05:41 PM   #49
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Real Election ? It was a real democratic election back in 2005. Mubarak won because people were happy under his regime back then. And the other candidate was jokes.

Especially, when 6 million people voted for him. I know Egypt`s population is 80 million but they should`ve voted when they had the chance.

And you can`t compare the US election with Egypt`s 2005 election. In the US, they had over 40% of the population voting. In egypt : 9%

Don`t try me.




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Old 02-01-2011 at 05:50 PM   #50
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Real Election ? It was a real democratic election back in 2005. Mubarak won because people were happy under his regime back then. And the other candidate was jokes.

Especially, when 6 million people voted for him. I know Egypt`s population is 80 million but they should`ve voted when they had the chance.

And you can`t compare the US election with Egypt`s 2005 election. In the US, they had over 40% of the population voting. In egypt : 9%

Don`t try me.
You're an..... There's something called pro-Mubarak personnel literally took the boxes of opposition leaders and replaced them with ballots which have Mubarak's name, paying out bribes, etc. etc. Go read a book, maybe you'll learn some critical thinking skills and common sense. It'll do you some good in this world..
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Old 02-01-2011 at 05:56 PM   #51
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Actually it is...

That's like saying it's not the American Citizens fault for the hundreds of thousands innocent people killed in Iraq. Especially, when Bush was voted TWICE.

In egypt, it's their fault... They elected him in 2005 when they were 2 other candidates.
Okay, for starters it's hard to compare bush getting re-elected once to Mubarak being re-"elected" 7 or 8 times. Furthermore it's not even a good comparison because Bush's re-election is probably rigged itself, or am I the only one who remembers the florida recount? Come to think of it.. you know who else was "democratically elected" time and time again? Kim Jong-il.

The 2005 election was rigged, like the elections before it. Do you honestly think that if Mubarak had a real 88% approval that the country would be rioting? The man is called a tyrant for good reason..

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Old 02-02-2011 at 07:15 PM   #52
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Okay.. I really don't get it now.. There's a whole bunch of pro-Mubarak protesters attacking the pro-democracy groups.. Are they hired? I think so. Why does this keep getting more and more complicated :@
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Old 02-02-2011 at 07:55 PM   #53
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Okay.. I really don't get it now.. There's a whole bunch of pro-Mubarak protesters attacking the pro-democracy groups.. Are they hired? I think so. Why does this keep getting more and more complicated :@
I'm pretty sure those pro-Mubarak protesters are police officers, loyal to Mubarak, in plainclothes.
 
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Mubarak=corrupt i get it, but i dont think its in anyone's best interests(israel and the west) to have a muslim brotherhood in charge.
 
Old 02-02-2011 at 09:17 PM   #55
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I'm pretty sure those pro-Mubarak protesters are police officers, loyal to Mubarak, in plainclothes.
That andd it was just revealed that it also included prisoners and others hired by the former Minister of Interior and businessmen loyal to Mubarak.
This guys has lost his f*%^ing mind. I swear.

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Mubarak=corrupt i get it, but i dont think its in anyone's best interests(israel and the west) to have a muslim brotherhood in charge.
Who said they would get to be in power anyway? Egyptians sure don't want him either!! There are 4-5 candidates that are much more popular for presidency than any Muslim brotherhood group.
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Old 02-02-2011 at 09:45 PM   #56
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Real Election ? It was a real democratic election back in 2005. Mubarak won because people were happy under his regime back then. And the other candidate was jokes.
yep...just like the elections that occur every so often in China are 'real democratic elections', and the elections in Libya are 'real democratic elections', etc. etc.

I suppose you're right, though - nobody was forced to vote for the incumbent in those 'real democratic elections'. It's just that either no-one else was allowed to run for the office or the ballot boxes were stuffed to start with. Fair and square!

Don't mistake voter apathy - commonplace in long-time dictatorships - for the 'happiness' of the electorate.

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Mubarak=corrupt i get it, but i dont think its in anyone's best interests(israel and the west) to have a muslim brotherhood in charge.
First: the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt bears a great deal more resemblance to the Turkish AK party than Hamas, despite its affiliations with the latter. Second: even if your somewhat paranoid vision of a 'muslim' brotherhood government comes to fruition, so what? While it's understandable that Western nations may have reservations for reasons of realpolitik, the Egyptian people have every right to self-determination, and it's tough luck if the international community has to work around it.

While Israeli security should, of course, be guaranteed by Western nations, it doesn't mean that Israeli security should take precedence over basic freedoms in Egypt.
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Old 02-03-2011 at 01:52 PM   #57
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yep...just like the elections that occur every so often in China are 'real democratic elections', and the elections in Libya are 'real democratic elections', etc. etc.

I suppose you're right, though - nobody was forced to vote for the incumbent in those 'real democratic elections'. It's just that either no-one else was allowed to run for the office or the ballot boxes were stuffed to start with. Fair and square!

Don't mistake voter apathy - commonplace in long-time dictatorships - for the 'happiness' of the electorate.



First: the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt bears a great deal more resemblance to the Turkish AK party than Hamas, despite its affiliations with the latter. Second: even if your somewhat paranoid vision of a 'muslim' brotherhood government comes to fruition, so what? While it's understandable that Western nations may have reservations for reasons of realpolitik, the Egyptian people have every right to self-determination, and it's tough luck if the international community has to work around it.

While Israeli security should, of course, be guaranteed by Western nations, it doesn't mean that Israeli security should take precedence over basic freedoms in Egypt.
relax buddy it was a troll post, i hate yahoodi's.

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