Originally Posted by lizziepizzie

Eww I hate that, too. If you can't dress nicely, then you should at least be CLEAN. I'm kind of personal hygiene obsessed; I shower twice a day. I can't imagine being intimate with someone who doesn't shower at least once a day... clean up, for God's sake. Ever heard of soap?

Twice a day? That's too much!

lol while I'm not entirely sure this post is in earnest or not, I'll throw in my two cents.

I think the tuition argument is stupid. You shouldn't have to be paying to attend an institution to dress how you want.

To Rakim, if that is really what you think - it is pretty sad. If you are looking for "beautiful" women, why not venture somewhere where you are likely to see people put time into their appearance (a club or bar?). This is a university. I come here to do my work and go home where the rest of my life exists.

I don't not wear makeup or dress up for class because I don't have time or whatever. I don't do it because I don't want to. How does spending an extra 20-30 minutes in front of a mirror enhance my ability to sit in lecture and type? That being said, I don't wear my pajamas to class and my clothes are always clean - but on any given day I can be dressed up or dressed down and frankly I don't think you have any right whatsoever to comment on it.

You certainly aren't the only one though. I've met lots of guys in class and then seen them later in life at some sort of function or just out in public and they often say "oh you look so different" (read: I think girls that don't wear makeup and stilettos to class are gross). I always find this so funny because how the see me outside of class is how i look 90% of the time. I just don't see any need to dress up for anyone or any reason when it comes to learning.

But honestly, if you really believe that women need to be aesthetically pleasing at all times in order to be validw, I have to question your logical thinking skills in the first place. Get a grip.

Originally Posted by Cliu91

Lol @ the girls who are saying their not here to impress people.
With that mentality, "Oh, I'm not gonna dress nice because I'm just going to work" or "Oh, it's my day off i don't need to dress nice"

If youre single, that's probably a good reason why you are single. And, although looks should come second to personality in the LONG run, in the SHORT run it could mean alot.

First impressions, and if you look like you can barely take care of yourself, how can you take care of your man?

So if someone doesn't dress nice all the time, they should be single? I'm not dressed up all the time as I said before, yet I've turned down more guys than I've ever dated and have been in a relationship for over two and a half years now. And it's been both people I've known well and people I don't know that well that have asked me. So the people that have known me have known that I'm not out there to dress to impress every guy I meet.

Just because you don't wear makeup all the time doesn't mean you can barely take care of yourself. Ever consider that wearing makeup all the time can do more harm than good? Makeup irritates acne/dermatitis/any other skin condition. So in reality, by not wearing makeup I'm taking care of myself better than if I wore makeup all the time and caused my dermatitis to be uncontrollable. As it is, I'm still having to do alot of skin care to keep everything under control.
Would you rather date me with makeup on 24/7 and a rash or no makeup and a clear complexion? Think about that before you assume that people with no makeup on are too bothered to take care of themselves. I spend probably just as much time as those girls that insist they can't go out anywhere without makeup on.

Originally Posted by eleduc

I think the tuition argument is stupid. You shouldn't have to be paying to attend an institution to dress how you want.

Yee, agreed.

Not sure what paying tuition or getting an education has to do with any of this.

Does that mean someone with a full scholarship has to take care of their appearance and they can't dress how they want? Because they aren't "paying money for an education"?

Originally Posted by JBeans

So if someone doesn't dress nice all the time, they should be single? I'm not dressed up all the time as I said before, yet I've turned down more guys than I've ever dated and have been in a relationship for over two and a half years now. And it's been both people I've known well and people I don't know that well that have asked me. So the people that have known me have known that I'm not out there to dress to impress every guy I meet.

Just because you don't wear makeup all the time doesn't mean you can barely take care of yourself. Ever consider that wearing makeup all the time can do more harm than good? Makeup irritates acne/dermatitis/any other skin condition. So in reality, by not wearing makeup I'm taking care of myself better than if I wore makeup all the time and caused my dermatitis to be uncontrollable. As it is, I'm still having to do alot of skin care to keep everything under control.
Would you rather date me with makeup on 24/7 and a rash or no makeup and a clear complexion? Think about that before you assume that people with no makeup on are too bothered to take care of themselves. I spend probably just as much time as those girls that insist they can't go out anywhere without makeup on.

All I'm saying is people who put forth zero effort shows.
And if they are single, well, that's a good place to start.

Let's make it simple: how a girl dresses is none of your bloody business.

Let them dress how they like. THEN pick and choose. What's the use of making a slob dress elegantly, hook up with her, and then find out she's a slob? Let the slobs be slobs (I'm not using the word slob to be offensive, I just mean that the girl doesn't appeal to you/dresses how you would like her to dress). If they're really a slob, then they couldn't care less about what people think of them, so why should you?

Hygiene, on the other hand, could use some working on. For our benefit. It's hard to concentrate on a lecture, or sleep in the bus when someone next to you smells like a sulphurous wasteland, and looks like birds are laying eggs in their hair.

i cant wait until exams are done so i can get high :]

The funny thing is I live an hour away from school and take about and hour to get ready each day, but thats because Im very slow in the morning. I dont like to look like a bum, I like to look presentable. And not for other people but myself. Then there are people that live 5 min away from the school and they come in in their pjs and sweatpants and look like they just woke up. That doesnt mean you dont care it means you are lazy lol or you dont have clean clothes, which is understandable.

As a varsity athlete and having to workout after a full day of class without going home to change or get my workout clothes.. why would I carry everything around all day on top of my school stuff? its much easier to just wear sweats and a sports shirt and just have shorts and your shoes.

Maybe if there were actually good looking guys at Mac, then girls would actually care about impressing them.

On a side note, lmao @ guys comparing how long it takes them to get ready compared to girls.
ie: 20-30 minute shower, 20 minute blow dry, 10-20 minutes hair straighten, 10-30 minutes for makeup, ~10 minutes to get dressed. Must be nice being able to take a 3 minute shower. I wouldn't ****ing know.

Originally Posted by jo87

The funny thing is I live an hour away from school and take about and hour to get ready each day, but thats because Im very slow in the morning. I dont like to look like a bum, I like to look presentable. And not for other people but myself. Then there are people that live 5 min away from the school and they come in in their pjs and sweatpants and look like they just woke up. That doesnt mean you dont care it means you are lazy lol or you dont have clean clothes, which is understandable.

Me too. I live 45 mins away from school and still take an hour to get ready. Not to look super dressy or anything, but just to look clean and nice/presentable. Again, for myself. I feel better when I look nice and my hair looks nice.

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starting from now on, ithink this verdicts as a "pay no attention to rakim's useless posting"

And for those who ask, this post is very useful

Originally Posted by pinkpiggydoe

why does dressing in sweats + hoodie constitute as not dressing nicely?? i think many girls pull off that laid back look so well! they look so comfortable .. its the ppl who put on a TON of makeup on in the morning to go to class that i don't really get... to me.. its sorta a waste of time and money

I work on campus (as well as attend classes), and I have meetings every few days with professors and staff, so I can't wear sweatpants - I might come off looking unprofessional. Personally, I never feel comfortable in sweatpants and hoodies in public anyway. I feel like I look sloppy/baggy. I'm just as comfortable (physically) in sweatpants as I am in skirts/heels and dressy clothes. I can see why people feel differently, but I just enjoy wearing dressy clothes, doing my makeup, hair, etc. I wore sweatpants and hoodies ALL throughout highschool (I literally didn't own any other clothes), so I guess I'm sick of wearing that stuff.

Having said that, I don't care if people wear sweatpants and hoodies or if they wear dressy clothes. Whatever they're comfortable in (physically and mentally) is all that really matters. I don't think wearing sweatpants and hoodies makes anyone look ugly or lazy. Sometimes I wish I could be one of those girls who just throws on sweats and still looks amazing!

Originally Posted by Rakim

No, beauty to me is not determined by material things. However, when I see that the majority of girls who go here walk around in sweatpants and hoodies its pretty unattractive. If it looks like you don't take care of yourself thats very off putting.

i dont know what you are talking about, because i love girls in hoodies.