Originally Posted by Twinkle

Rebecca, Christina, how many people tried to stop you from going to university simply because you are female? How many times have you lost your jobs because you were women?

Except for privileged white males...

Oh really? And what about all those jobs we can't get or not supposed to get as white males or males in general?

Individual experiences do not reflect society as a whole

I've largely been privileged enough to face little barriers in my chosen field, but believe me when I say that when I'm not amazing at math or the physical sciences, people like to say it's because I'm a girl

same as when I'm building stuff

and I know girls from more conservative areas who were told their whole lives they shouldn't outshine their male classmates, and I know girls who's academic accomplishments were NEVER celebrated at home because her parents felt her dumbass brother would feel bad from being beaten by a girl since guys are suppose to be smarter than girls

Originally Posted by Twinkle

Interesting, then how do you think all those scientist got their data?

please, Mr. Expert, why don't you enlighten us and show us all those studies you read that were solely questionnaire based

you're also going to have to prove they make up a significant portion of all studies to prove amardeep's point is invalid

Originally Posted by Twinkle

Interesting, then how do you think all those scientist got their data?

In a nutshell... fun little thing called "doing science"?

As in not, well it never happened to me therefore it's not true...

I've never got the flu nor met anyone who ever got the flu. Therefore the flu must not exist?

also of course this point was going to come up sooner or later: "What about the men?!?!?! Who will think of the men?"

I'm just going to say this right now. Sexism hurts males as well, domestic violence against males are dismissed and there are things males can't do because it makes them sissies.

However, sexism OPPRESSES women on a whole other level above and beyond the damage to males. Also consider some of the instances when males can't do something. Being stay at home dads, nurses, be emotional. These things are frowned upon because they make the male more FEMININE. Which is deemed bad.

EDIT: wow wtf quoting

I was responding to this from someone "Except for privileged white males...

Oh really? And what about all those jobs we can't get or not supposed to get as white males or males in general?"

Wow this thread is getting huge...

In a nutshell... fun little thing called "doing science"?

As in not, well it never happened to me therefore it's not true...

Right, science, get several hundreds of interviews punch it into an equation and get a new reason to blame the society for your own inabilities. Gotta love science.

I've never got the flu nor met anyone who ever got the flu. Therefore the flu must not exist?

I never said it wasn't true. I just said that all those studies on how spread the problem is are invalid.

Individual experiences do not reflect society as a whole

Nor do the newspaper articles.

I've largely been privileged enough to face little barriers in my chosen field, but believe me when I say that when I'm not amazing at math or the physical sciences, people like to say it's because I'm a girl

Have you possible thought about how hard it is to be a guy? If you get punched - you gotta fight, otherwise you are not a man. If you try to get a job as a flight attendant or a office secretary - you are either gay or a loser.

And you can't even possibly image how hard it is to get a job in the adult movie industry if you are a guy, especially white. And even if you get the job, your salary is a grain of sand compared with your female co-workers. Bla-mo!

And guess what, you dont see us running around whining about how the world is unfair. We take it as it is quietly. That makes the difference between us.

Originally Posted by Twinkle

In a nutshell... fun little thing called "doing science"?

As in not, well it never happened to me therefore it's not true...

Right, science, get several hundreds of interviews punch it into an equation and get a new reason to blame the society for your own inabilities. Gotta love science.

I've never got the flu nor met anyone who ever got the flu. Therefore the flu must not exist?

I never said it wasn't true. I just said that all those studies on how spread the problem is are invalid.

Individual experiences do not reflect society as a whole

Nor do the newspaper articles.

I've largely been privileged enough to face little barriers in my chosen field, but believe me when I say that when I'm not amazing at math or the physical sciences, people like to say it's because I'm a girl

Have you possible thought about how hard it is to be a guy? If you get punched - you gotta fight, otherwise you are not a man. If you try to get a job as a flight attendant or a office secretary - you are either gay or a loser.

And you can't even possibly image how hard it is to get a job in the adult movie industry if you are a guy, especially white. And even if you get the job, your salary is a grain of sand compared with your female co-workers. Bla-mo!

And guess what, you dont see us running around whining about how the world is unfair. We take it as it is quietly. That makes the difference between us.

jesus H. christ

okay I'm really sorry your **** career never took off but majority of **** is aimed at heterosexual males, in fact most media contains gratuitous female nudity and general sexiness to cater to het males because they assume they are the default audience. the **** industry is often exploitative anyways

also I'm just going to copy paste what I wrote before on "What about the men?!?!"

"I'm just going to say this right now. Sexism hurts males as well, domestic violence against males are dismissed and there are things males can't do because it makes them sissies.

However, sexism OPPRESSES women on a whole other level above and beyond the damage to males. Also consider some of the instances when males can't do something. Being stay at home dads, nurses, be emotional. These things are frowned upon because they make the male more FEMININE. Which is deemed bad."

men who don't fight are sissies, you see it all the time in media, some jackass taunting another kid going "You gonna run like a girl?" or "you fight like a girl"

who is really being dissed here?

Originally Posted by lelekb

Individual experiences do not reflect society as a whole

I've largely been privileged enough to face little barriers in my chosen field, but believe me when I say that when I'm not amazing at math or the physical sciences, people like to say it's because I'm a girl

same as when I'm building stuff

and I know girls from more conservative areas who were told their whole lives they shouldn't outshine their male classmates, and I know girls who's academic accomplishments were NEVER celebrated at home because her parents felt her dumbass brother would feel bad from being beaten by a girl since guys are suppose to be smarter than girls

Your individual experiences do not reflect society as a whole...

Originally Posted by Chris23

Your individual experiences do not reflect society as a whole...

I was asked for my experiences

Originally Posted by lelekb

I was asked for my experiences

Well according to you personal experiences dont hold any value, so just wanted to use your words there

well its been fun but im done in this one. good luck against all the feminists who all clearly hate the entire male gender twinkle!

the context is entirely different

I don't hate the entire male gender, just the sexists ones, but I hate sexist girls too
at no point did I say I hate all men

Originally Posted by Chris23

Well according to you personal experiences dont hold any value, so just wanted to use your words there

well its been fun but im done in this one. good luck against all the feminists who all clearly hate the entire male gender twinkle!

Feminists don't hate the male gender, they hate the privileges associated with being a male. There's a huge difference.

Originally Posted by sarahsullz

Feminists don't hate the male gender, they hate the privileges associated with being a male. There's a huge difference.

Nor do we hate ladies, we love ladies, well, most of us.

Anyway, in the first page it was said that there are privileges for men and women. So that cancels out.