08-23-2010 at 08:18 PM
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Sin taxation could also be partially be based on "need". I know there are states in the US where everything that's a necessity is non-taxed. Although "sin" taxes aren't global like non-necessity taxes, you could still consider "sin" products as things that you can definitively live without.
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08-23-2010 at 08:22 PM
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Sin taxation could also be partially be based on "need". I know there are states in the US where everything that's a necessity is non-taxed. Although "sin" taxes aren't global like non-necessity taxes, you could still consider "sin" products as things that you can definitively live without.
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Twinkies, cars, kids, marriage, shampoo, moisturizer, socks, shoes...
"all things we can live without."
Tax everything or tax nothing.
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08-23-2010 at 08:25 PM
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Twinkies, cars, kids, marriage, shampoo, moisturizer, socks, shoes...
"all things we can live without."
Tax everything or tax nothing.
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I agree, in certain states those things are taxed (probably not shampoo, socks or shoes though). Could be something you can talk to your MP about.
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08-23-2010 at 08:29 PM
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Simple argument: Legalize, Educate, Regulate, Medicate.
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a little arrogant, too bureaucratic, and sounds too much like social control.
all drugs legal for all ages, anything less is regressive.
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08-23-2010 at 08:54 PM
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To those who still think it is a destructive "drug", take the time to actually find out what it is from a non-biased source.
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08-23-2010 at 09:03 PM
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Yep... I'd definitely want to "inform" myself after being called an idiot. icwutudidthar.
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08-23-2010 at 09:14 PM
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lol i dont know why people glamourize a drug that so many bums, lazy drug addicts use to pass their time while living off tax payers money.
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I have another interesting question: does anyone here care whether marijuana is legal or not when it comes to the usage of it?
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08-23-2010 at 10:13 PM
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I have another interesting question: does anyone here care whether marijuana is legal or not when it comes to the usage of it?
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Do you mean, do I care if I'm breaking the law? **** no.
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08-23-2010 at 10:26 PM
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lol i dont know why people glamourize a drug that so many bums, lazy drug addicts use to pass their time while living off tax payers money.
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oh, you mean alcohol? i really don't understand it either. all those advertisements of classy people going out clubbing, those men hitting on ridiculously good looking women at those awesome parties! oh, and we can't forget about those alcoholics that become abusive and destructive, beating their wives, children and pets.
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08-23-2010 at 10:36 PM
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poppy ****. i dont even smoke but i kno for damn sure that the thc is marijooo-ana is a lot less toxic than alcohol. the only reason mj is illegal is cuz of pure ignorance AH!!
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08-24-2010 at 07:27 AM
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lol i dont know why people glamourize a drug that so many bums, lazy drug addicts use to pass their time while living off tax payers money.
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Let me explain to you why we "glamourize" it. Since you sound a person who obviously knows nothing about the topic in discussion, I am going to break down to you what marijuana means to me and some of the major misconceptions people have about it.
First and foremost, any smoke does harm to your lungs. Marijuana can also be ingested or vaporized, therefore removing most if not all harm. Many patients who suffer from chronic pain cannot inhale smoke so they ingest it. Do you know how it feels to be in constant agony 24/7? I doubt it.
Ever get stressed out? Marijuana is the best stress reliever out there.
Have appetite problems? This can be a curse or a gift as marijuana makes you very hungry.
Marijuana does brain damage? Wrong. Marijuana stimulates certain regions in your brain to stimulate certain euphoric effects but does not create brain cell damaging toxins.
Marijuana destroys your memory? Wrong. However, marjuana does effect your short term memory for the period the THC is still active in your system. If you stop smoking, there are no permanent effects on memory.
Marijuana overdose? Impossible.
Last but not least, it makes you feel great. No matter what is on your mind the herb takes away all those worries.
Your image of a "pothead" is extremely skewed, I suggest you keep an open mind and learn about something before making such a moronic comment. Thanks.
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08-24-2010 at 10:43 AM
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Let's just talk about this philosophically,
Pain in the long term!
The truth is many college students use MJ to escape the stress and harsh realities of life. Instead of facing them, they "self-medicate" using MJ and think that they will be able to solve their problems or feel better. However, little do they know that using MJ is like procrastinating. MJ might make them forget their worries in the short term but in the long term, they are just delaying postponing their life problems.
Neediness!
I personally believe that any drug should be used only when NEEDED. MJ's postive, beneficial qualities should only be used for prescription or hospital so that those patients who are battling AIDS, MS, chemotheraphy, ADD etc. are the ones who benefit. So my question for a regular or even an occasional MJ user is, do you have AIDS? MS? Cancer? ADD? If not, then why the **** do you use it?
Negative effects
There are harmful effects of using MJ. There are very harmful term health effects on heart(palpitations and increased heart rate), lung(Marijuana contains more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke and because marijuana smokers typically inhale deeper and hold the smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers, their lungs are exposed to those carcinogenic properties longer, when smoking; lung cancer) and brain(growing association between chronic marijuana use and anxiety, depression, and psychotic illnesses such as Schizophrenia).
MJ is very addictive as well which can destroy your daily routine(going to work, performing duties, etc.)
In addition, research indicates that THC impairs the body's immune system from fighting disease, which can cause a wide variety of health problems. Moreover, children born to mothers who use MJ demonstrated poor concentration, visual, and problem solving skills.
Hence, we should not legalize MJ to general public. MJ doesn't solve any problems for you. In the end, you have to solve them by yourself.
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08-24-2010 at 10:49 AM
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Let's just talk about this philosophically,
Pain in the long term!
The truth is many college students use MJ to escape the stress and harsh realities of life. Instead of facing them, they "self-medicate" using MJ and think that they will be able to solve their problems or feel better. However, little do they know that using MJ is like procrastinating. MJ might make them forget their worries in the short term but in the long term, they are just delaying postponing their life problems.
Neediness!
I personally believe that any drug should be used only when NEEDED. MJ's postive, beneficial qualities should only be used for prescription or hospital so that those patients who are battling AIDS, MS, chemotheraphy, ADD etc. are the ones who benefit. So my question for a regular or even an occasional MJ user is, do you have AIDS? MS? Cancer? ADD? If not, then why the **** do you use it?
Negative effects
There are harmful effects of using MJ. There are very harmful term health effects on heart(palpitations and increased heart rate), lung(Marijuana contains more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke and because marijuana smokers typically inhale deeper and hold the smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers, their lungs are exposed to those carcinogenic properties longer, when smoking; lung cancer) and brain(growing association between chronic marijuana use and anxiety, depression, and psychotic illnesses such as Schizophrenia).
MJ is very addictive as well which can destroy your daily routine(going to work, performing duties, etc.)
In addition, research indicates that THC impairs the body's immune system from fighting disease, which can cause a wide variety of health problems. Moreover, children born to mothers who use MJ demonstrated poor concentration, visual, and problem solving skills.
Hence, we should not legalize MJ to general public. MJ doesn't solve any problems for you. In the end, you have to solve them by yourself.
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Can you please show the research that proves MJ contains more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than cigarettes? Also, I don't think many people smoke weed as much as people smoke cigarettes. Meaning a person smokes way more cigarettes than weed in terms of quantity.
I don't find MJ addictive, I find it less addictive than alcohol.
Children born to mothers who use ANY drugs will have some sort of "defect".
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